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Super Igor · Nov 07, 2008, 12:58 AM // 00:58

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Originally Posted by Bobby2

I think what I'm trying to say is; Para's do it better imho, even disregarding Spear Swipe. Wars have their own brand of caster shutdown, and it's called Earth Shaker.

No u

I honestly wouldnt run anything but imbagon on my pve para and thats the whole point, wars charge stunning faster aswell. Urf shakuur is gud though cant neglect that but spear warriors are kinda nice too.

Bobby2 · Nov 07, 2008, 03:20 AM // 03:20

Stunning Para to compare.

Ld 11+1
Spear 12+1+1
Command 6+1

[anthem of [email protected]][spear of fury][stunning [email protected]][[email protected] refrain][enduring [email protected]][for great justice][save yourselves][empty]

Pros
- Doesn't have to put up with the adren drains that are Barbed and Flail.
- Better bang out of EH/FGJ!
- Less time spent on stuff other than attacking (AoW, vs LC for your Spearwar)
- 14 Spear Mastery.

- Empty spot for TntF. Or rez. Or...

Cons
- 25% IAS.
- Decidedly less manleh.
- EDIT: Cracked Armor (as if the brave would care

).

Thought it'd be funny to argue my point with a build

Luminarus · Nov 07, 2008, 07:18 AM // 07:18

Havent tried urs bobby, but it has to give up time to cast aow, 25% IAS, no armor penetration and otherwise its the same, baring the wars self heal

Anime Divine · Nov 07, 2008, 11:11 AM // 11:11

again i discovered the war paragon with flail before reading here so nothing new no fame sorry

i was playing it in RA barbed spear with burning spear

cripling athem and flail,disrupting throw, never surrender, lions comfort was impressed with the IAS

it was fun for a while even when vanquishing

with skills like asuran scan and im strongest
now it got boring so move on i think i do better damage with axe

_Nihilist_ · Nov 07, 2008, 11:18 AM // 11:18

So far I've used my Spear on my Warr to gain ADR @ range, but this looks to be mildly amusing... must needs try scaring a Paragon with my manly looking armor while throwing his spears back at him... XD

Luminarus · Nov 07, 2008, 11:56 AM // 11:56

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Originally Posted by Anime Divine

again i discovered the war paragon with flail before reading here so nothing new no fame sorry

i was playing it in RA barbed spear with burning spear

cripling athem and flail,disrupting throw, never surrender, lions comfort was impressed with the IAS

it was fun for a while even when vanquishing

with skills like asuran scan and im strongest
now it got boring so move on i think i do better damage with axe

Its still good considering its a spear build.

Super Igor · Nov 07, 2008, 03:39 PM // 15:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby2

Stunning Para to compare.

Ld 11+1
Spear 12+1+1
Command 6+1

[anthem of [email protected]][spear of fury][stunning [email protected]][[email protected] refrain][enduring [email protected]][for great justice][save yourselves][empty]

Pros
- Doesn't have to put up with the adren drains that are Barbed and Flail.
- Better bang out of EH/FGJ!
- Less time spent on stuff other than attacking (AoW, vs LC for your Spearwar)
- 14 Spear Mastery.

- Empty spot for TntF. Or rez. Or...

Cons
- 25% IAS.
- Decidedly less manleh.
- EDIT: Cracked Armor (as if the brave would care

).

Thought it'd be funny to argue my point with a build

Actually, melieks ur build, although flail is faster than agressive refrain and costs no energy and you might have a prollem with yours.

Oh btw, no tntf! QQ

Bobby2 · Nov 07, 2008, 08:41 PM // 20:41

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Originally Posted by Luminarus

Havent tried urs bobby, but it has to give up time to cast aow, 25% IAS, no armor penetration and otherwise its the same, baring the wars self heal

inorite

but I've addressed those points

stopping for AoW = less often than stopping for LC, so Para wins out still
Armor penetration = meh, 14 Spear Mastery vs a War's 12 should even it out properly
self heal = largely unnecessary

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Originally Posted by Super Igor

Actually, melieks ur build, although flail is faster than agressive refrain and costs no energy and you might have a prollem with yours.

Oh btw, no tntf! QQ

y ty sir, but energy problems are annihilated by having 2 shouts. Yaay for useful primaries!

and QQ moar, I haz empty slot mainly reserved for TntF, so that's not a real argument

Super Igor · Nov 08, 2008, 02:28 PM // 14:28

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Originally Posted by Bobby2

y ty sir, but energy problems are annihilated by having 2 shouts. Yaay for useful primaries!

You spend some enrgiez before shouting no?

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and QQ moar, I haz empty slot mainly reserved for TntF, so that's not a real argument

Wai dont u put it ther rite away? QQ

btw, you wont need to spam lc often, each 8-10 seconds at best.

Bobby2 · Nov 08, 2008, 02:55 PM // 14:55

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Originally Posted by Super Igor

You spend some enrgiez before shouting no?

Same as Imbagon. AR upon zoning with +3Ld hat, TntF on recharge. Or AoW (cuz angel wings are cool) but I don't have to 'spend' energy on that.

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Originally Posted by Super Igor

Wai dont u put it ther rite away? QQ

Well, you could also bring rez, or another PvE skill... as if.

Mostly to make a better direct comparison with your War...

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Originally Posted by Super Igor

btw, you wont need to spam lc often, each 8-10 seconds at best.

More like 6-7 seconds to me, and on charge once FGJ! drops. Or I'm being way greedier for Stunning then your War can handle.

Super Igor · Nov 08, 2008, 10:46 PM // 22:46

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Originally Posted by Bobby2

Same as Imbagon. AR upon zoning with +3Ld hat, TntF on recharge. Or AoW (cuz angel wings are cool) but I don't have to 'spend' energy on that.

Innitially you will need 30 or 45 energy to cast all of this, tho you get some of it later...

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Well, you could also bring rez, or another PvE skill... as if.

as if...rez are for the weak, tntf! is ftw.

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Mostly to make a better direct comparison with your War...

You cant argue its mightyness! D:

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More like 6-7 seconds to me, and on charge once FGJ! drops. Or I'm being way greedier for Stunning then your War can handle.

You should be able to charge sy! all the time with your as and spear of fury, not that you need to spam lc that often, besides even 7 seconds aint often no?

Neo Atomisk · Dec 02, 2008, 03:56 PM // 15:56

so you pretty much made a warrior imbagon?

Snow Bunny is entirely correct. There are some great DPS builds utilizing Warrior's Endurance with every melee weapon type.

@Igor: [email protected] in PvE. But I guess it's a good build, HOWEVER, Imbagons are more effective at the +AL part. Have you tried submitting this on pvxwiki.com?